— When we were kids, we played soccer like beasts, went cycling, and swam in the summer. However, at that time the sport did not have the status it has today.
–What was already there to occupy that space … Royal Society.
–Not just the Royal Society. Especially in Gipuzkoa and my home, we are very multi-sporty. I follow everything from balls to rowing to handball to basketball. Dedicatedly.
–Has this course been decided?
–Real is in a transition period. We’re going to have a great time. We used to exist, but we don’t anymore. I don’t know what we’ll end up with.
–They took away a lot from the team in a short period of time, and that was a big blow.
–What was unexpected was not the absence, but rather the lack of influence from the incorporation. We were a very important team. With Silva, Merino, Isak, Zvimendi, Odegaard and Le Normand out, the situation is unstable. But we are used to such events. A predator lurks. What we didn’t expect was that the corporatization policy would go so wrong. The result of Yangel Herrera remains to be seen, but the other players have not contributed anything. there is nothing.
–Aren’t you a bit of an conformist?
–Yes, I accept reality to some extent. We know that our team will always be supported by our youth team. And for that we need a young audience. And we know that when players start, they will make mistakes and remain beginners until they take their final vows. And fans live knowing that. That too has changed though.
—Where?
–We are a bit like the Real Madrid players. A child is born there, and on the second day they are given a golden ball, but on the third day they are kicked out, saying that the child is worthless. This lack of patience is starting to affect the Real people a bit too. And on the other hand, as soon as your player stands out, you know that they are trying to take him away from you. What do you want us to aim for? How to win the league? As soon as you win, you will have five less points the following year.
-look? That’s resignation.
–It is certainly possible to counter this cause with greater aspirations. An example would be Villarreal. But we chose to accept who I am.
–Romanticism isn’t a bad thing if everyone does it together.
–It means that only amateurs can maintain romanticism. And it is very funny to see how he is surprised that the football player does not share his romanticism, even calling him a traitor for signing with another team. Romanticism is gone because money has taken over this whole shebang.
–What about your fans? Do you mean something important between the small and the nothing?
–Everything was lost. In order to sell more T-shirts, each year the T-shirts are different. It seems to me that it is desecrating the temple. The name of the stadium is also the same. And having money means the stadium’s sacred name can be sold into advertising.
–Besides Real, which do you feel closer to, Madrid or Barcelona?
–To Osasuna and then to Betis.
–Don’t get me wrong, it’s Madrid or Barça.
–Barça inspires me more than Madrid. We were enthusiastic about Madrid, but paradoxically, we also admired Di Stéfano. My family was anti-Madrid fans, but we worshiped him. And we insulted him and filled the fields with mud and necessities. He won against us by playing soccer. Blow too. But note that he is a man who is highly disliked by San Sebastian’s patrons, and he has San Sebastian’s “Golden Drum.”
–An interviewee who openly admits that he is anti-Madrid.
–However, there is something strange. I couldn’t even see Madrid. However, when playing against Partizan Belgrade, I saw no reason why Partizan would prefer to win. And Di Stefano, Gento and Puskas were our boys. That’s how I felt. You should share it with your friends to see how they felt.
–What do you think about Xabi Alonso’s situation?
—I love him very much. I want him to succeed. But that’s what’s happening at Real Madrid. Everything is in excess there. They become the queens of the mambo every two weeks because it is the most important club in the world and nothing is played during normal life. Xavi is going through a difficult period at the moment, but he will probably be at the top within two weeks. Everything is unstable. It’s a shame that we had such a bad time, but Madrid have been playing very poorly for a long time.
–And the victory.
—This glory always amazes me so much. Madrid boast of their comeback, but they fail to realize that a comeback requires past failures. Why are they proud of this? In short, it is a glorification of heroism that turns a blind eye to necessary failures.
–I gave you a list of names and you said the first one that came to mind was Ramin Yamal.
–A still inexperienced genius.
–Vinicius.
–An even more immature genius.
–Laporta.
–He has a deep ability to attract followers, but I don’t see the point.
–Florentino Perez.
–A man with such great power that he is a strange presence in the sky. He has dreams that seem delusional from the soccer world, but they can’t be from where he sees the world. With the exception of Amancio Ortega, I have never met anyone who sees the world from that place. These gentlemen say things that seem very arrogant to me, but I don’t have the courage to criticize anyone who sees things from there. It will be operated by a different plane.
–Did you see Real’s victory over Barça Women’s?
-Yeah. We are very proud to have a women’s team that ranks third in the league. Women’s empowerment is the most remarkable movement of change that I have experienced. Even in sports.
–I’m guessing you reject the theory that women’s soccer is neither soccer nor feminine.
–That’s nonsense. Women’s soccer is very good. The only thing I can think of is that the goal is very big. This is my impression.
— Is there an option for you to meet him someday as the manager of the club you love?
-no. When they call me, I’m willing to go for anything. I love them so much, but I don’t. I know what I am worthy of and what I am not worthy of.
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